tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1669595284088933931.post5727057248655114301..comments2023-05-30T07:15:02.711-07:00Comments on Free Speech Emergency in Latvia: The shame continues...Juris Kažahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10052208772017734513noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1669595284088933931.post-20985563607411918222008-12-09T04:13:00.000-08:002008-12-09T04:13:00.000-08:00Sure, drawing a parallel between the DP and the KG...Sure, drawing a parallel between the DP and the KGB is hyperbolic,though the DP should appologize for this case!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1669595284088933931.post-82449745297371644612008-12-02T12:53:00.000-08:002008-12-02T12:53:00.000-08:00For the record, I was told that the story was prin...For the record, I was told that the story was printed on the front page. I pray for the fifth column reserved for quirky stories...Alekshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05189758672961114750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1669595284088933931.post-82754758792205061332008-12-02T03:44:00.000-08:002008-12-02T03:44:00.000-08:00As a Finn I well remember what havoc forced devalu...As a Finn I well remember what havoc forced devaluation can cause. Finnish government in 1991 knew that will devalue soon, but still they publicly lied that Finnish markka will never be devalued. Of course it did and those poor fellows with loans pegged to foreign currency saw their debts exploding. Many thousands succesful people were permanently bankrupted. Tens of thousands took heavy economic blows. And the situation in Finland was, say in 1990, much brighter than in Latvia now. Devaluation seems almost inevitable in Latvia. And the Latvian government is forced to lie about this coming devaluation to public. Should government official and politicians then face two years prison sentences for deceiving public in financial matters. This is serious business and Latvians would be wise to learn from Finnsih and other experiences with government lies about devaluation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1669595284088933931.post-15821663312025017742008-12-01T02:39:00.000-08:002008-12-01T02:39:00.000-08:00Yeah, certainly there are free speech incidents el...Yeah, certainly there are free speech incidents elsewhere in the developed democracies. Unfortunately, looking at Jaudžeikars, Šmits, Segliņš and other Latvian politicians, I do see the pitchforks and the peasant/tumsonis mentality and little chance for change :(Juris Kažahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10052208772017734513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1669595284088933931.post-66429668094706230282008-12-01T02:28:00.000-08:002008-12-01T02:28:00.000-08:00Nick Cohen has an article in the Observer on the r...Nick Cohen has <A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/30/damian-green-conservatives" REL="nofollow">an article in the <I>Observer</I></A> on the recent remarkable erosion of British freedoms, including this line: "the descent into hyperbole plays into Brown's hands and allows him to dismiss valid criticisms as hysteria." I think drawing a parallel, however tempting, between the DP and the KGB is similarly hyperbolic and distracts from the issue at hand. <BR/><BR/>Yesterday's <A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/30/damian-green-conservatives1" REL="nofollow"><I>Observer</I> editorial</A> included these lines:<BR/><BR/>"The leaks made public by Mr Green embarrassed the government, but that does not constitute a threat to national security, nor should it ever be deemed a criminal offence. Few laws are worded so exactly that police have no discretion in their use. When that discretion is applied with flagrant disregard for basic political freedom, it is an affront to democracy.<BR/><BR/>"Police tend instinctively to push their legal powers to the limit. Checking that tendency should be just as instinctive for parliamentarians. If either the Prime Minister or the Speaker were stirred by such an instinct last week, they kept it well hidden."<BR/><BR/>The Damian Green case is quite different from the DP's recent actions -- but you can see some essential similarities, too.<BR/><BR/>I'm not convinced that bringing "disgrace and ridicule" upon Latvia is helpful; there's that "Western gaze" in which them stereotypical pitchfork-wielding peasants of Ruritania be up to their backward old tricks again, stuck in some inescapable, indeed innate Eastern European condition?<BR/><BR/>Don't get me wrong -- I think that what the DP did was vile, sleazy and stupid. But things like this happen in advanced democracies, too. Cohen also draws attention to the difference between freedom of expression in America and Britain: "Yet the unprecedented spectacle of America, a fellow democracy whose legal system has roots in the English common law, deciding that Britain is no friend to freedom of speech, has passed without comment from officialdom here." The libertarian American approach you espouse, Juri, is exactly that. I doubt that David Irving would be put behind bars in the US, as he was in Austria.<BR/><BR/>When you make the comparison to the KGB (even "KGB Lite"), the differences stand out first, to my mind -- you wouldn't get headlines in the papers after an interview with the KGB.Pēteris Cedriņšhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427626605836088551noreply@blogger.com